Please send this to everyone you can. This is a truly grass roots effort; we need to build up as much steam as possible.
Please post this; citizens need to know what is going on in the streets, and behind the scenes:
Now the yes on 8 group has orchestrated several attacks on the no on 8 website, precluding people from making donations, and they bought up every typo-version domain to point to theirs. They are fighting below the belt, on top of the rest of the great christian behaviour they have already exemplified.
This is becoming neo-nazi behavior, and has already been tyrannical. They are now, LITERALLY, stealing our freedom to press.
I went out to protest against the prop last night and the night before. This is what sense the fanatics on the other side make:
1. I spoke with a black girl in her teens. She said gays have not had to face oppression as strong as having to go to your own water fountain, and this is no similarity.
Effectively, her church has persuaded her into justifiable anger about the segregation blacks went through, but has pointed her anger in the wrong direction. She is young enough, that she is moldable, and this is how the yes on 8 people are protecting your children. By misguiding them for their benefit.
2. I spoke with three young girls who were holding a sign: Prop 8 = less government.
I advised them there is a separation of church and state. They said, “not anymore” and smirked.
3. I spoke with a mother who is professing that Prop 8 is about parental rights. I asked how. She said, “They will teach kids homosexuality in school.” I advised that existing California law allows them to opt out of anything they don’t want taught to their kids in sex ed. Her response was: “Nuh-unh.”
I then asked her if she would allow heterosexuality to be taught in school, she said “not until kids are the right age.” I asked how she is so sure that that is not being taught to kids under 13/14 or so. She said there is a California law protecting her and allowing her to opt out of that. Odd.
Their idiocy, hypocrisy, and fanaticism makes you want to scream. They had children at the protest, mimicking their parents’ hate and disdain toward gay people. Rather than teaming up as a good church community, they taught their kids INTOLERANCE, and proudly boasted that. And then offered me some brownies and pizza, because they are so loving.
4. One of them said, “When my husband ejaculates into me, I have six opportunities to reproduce. If I get a warm feeling right here (gesturing toward her chest), then I know I have become pregnant.
She probably belongs in a straight jacket.
5. One of them said that all presidential elects are against gay marriage. I explained to them that Biden went on the Ellen show stating very clearly that he would vote NO on 8 if he were a California citizen and he congratulated her on her marriage.
The reaction I got was, “(baffled), Oh, really? (And then his rationalization - ) Well, that is because he was on a lesbian’s tv show. Of course he would say that. Duh.”
I said, “Biden did have the opportunity to exercise his right not to appear on a lesbian’s tv show.”
His answer: “Well, I just won’t tolerate it.”
We are out there fighting against geniuses.
One yes on 8 woman told me her uncle was gay but she loves him. I just shoe'd her away, because I didn't want to talk to her. She is the kind that would earn a backhand.
Two people called me a f-a-g last night. One asked if I were a lesbian, one grabbed his package and told me to “suck it”.
If parental rights are at stake (which the super-intendant of the schools of California already refuted), then you need to initiate a prop that allows more parental control of the curriculum. You do not initiate a prop denying people the right to marry, and then hold signs that this is about parental rights.
If freedom of speech is at stake (which has nothing to do with this, the argument is only used to enrage the white trash-nra-member-type moron), you need to start a proposition that helps protect your freedom of speech, not initiate a prop denying people the right to marry, and then hold signs that this is about freedom of speech.
California will in no way force a church to marry a gay couple if it is against their religious beliefs. It will have no effect on tax exemption status.
I have never seen such a dirty fight before. When Bush ran against McCain, their underground smear campaign in Alabama and neighbouring states (though not true) was that McCain had a half black baby, like mating with a black woman was a bad thing.
I laugh when I see minorities fighting for yes, when I really want to cry. They have no clue they are being bamboozled, and that the churches will oust them next. They have no idea they are being brainwashed, or they are so outrageously sad, that they will latch on to anybody seeming to care about their plights.
I keep thinking about the movie, “Hunchback of Notre Dame”. There was a scene when Quasimodo ran to the church, and started screaming SANCTUARY. Churches were there to protect everybody. But now I see that churches and their patrons are not holy by any stretch of the word.
They can commit federal offenses such as hacking another website, to preclude needed campaign donations.
They can exploit and manipulate children, particularly aiming toward minorities.
They can preach intolerance, bigotry, hate.
They can spend millions of dollars from out of state donors to launch an ad campaign, overflowing with blatant lies, even when the lies have already been refuted by state officials, law professors, congregations in support of equality, former mormon and religious scholars, medical practitioners, etc.
A no-on-8 girl was asking a yes-on-8 girl, “Could you imagine the fear I had to go through growing up? People would wait at the top of a hill so they could throw rocks at me and my girlfriend.”
The yes-on-8 girl said, “I know how that feels. People have been throwing stuff out their windows, shouting obscenities, etc.” Very nerve-y answer. She initiated it by proposing and protesting for discrimination while the other girl was just expressing love.
This is a very ass backwards campaign/proposition (pardon the pun.)
I asked someone, “I see you are wearing a shirt tonight. Does that mean I am wearing a blouse?”
I asked someone, “What does it matter what Jim and Bob do in their house, in their life? How does it really effect your life?”
He said, “It doesn’t.”
I said, “Then why are you so hell bent against them getting married.”
His answer, “Because I don’t tolerate it.”
Sigh, we are fighting against insane people, and had they received no out of state funding, this would have been a wash already. So not only is religion controlling California, but so is Utah. And you all need to get flipping angry about it. Another state is pulling California’s strings. Much like the rolling black-outs due to privatization of energy companies.
Really, why would anyone want to monopolize the word, marriage? It makes me not want to marry, like marriage is only allowed if you are in a secret club or something, when it is supposed to be about celebrating love. As a heterosexual girl, they are taking that right from me, too. I don't want an inequality, even if it favours me.
I told that to a woman who already absentee-d her yes. She agreed, but said, "To me, god is more imortant than people."
I marched with the yes on 8 as a joke, chanting "yes on 8" while performing the nazi salute. Trying to wake them up a little bit, and open their eyes to what hate they are spreading. You can't shake them. They are like alien robots and they have a strange odor too.
The long and short: Sweet land of liberty only applies to white hetero christian men, and it helps, too, if you are rich.
We need to protect equality by Voting NO on 8, or you are next.
And I am not sure I will be there to stand up for you when it comes your turn.
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