I cannot drive by a “yes on 8” street corner rally without instantly becoming thunderously angry, and I will admit it: I roll down my window, and use my freedom of speech to tell them what inbred pathetically religious prejudiced jerk-butts they are. And occasionally I will throw an old taco bell wrapper at them.
I live here, in this world. And people are trying to take an equal right away from me?
Mind you, I am a heterosexual girl, in a hetero relationship. I am afforded the right to marry a man. I would be absolutely devastated if anyone took that right from me. However, some stupid religious right is trying to make it so one whole group of people cannot get married. That turns my right to marry unequal.
I am no better than anyone else: I support love, equality, and freedom. I will not be treated better than anyone else.
How is it that a man who strays from his wife is still legally permitted to, how do they word it, oh, “protect the sanctity of marriage”? Or a self-confessed convict is allowed the right to marry. Even former chesters.
How about hermaphrodites? Can we single them out, too? Are they allowed the constitutional right to the pursuit of happiness? What about, dare I say, interracial marriages? Fifty years ago, that was frowned upon and considered immoral.
Oh, and, my personal favourite. Proponents of yes on 8 have spent well over $25 million trying to take away a right from people whose lives don’t even effect them. I could give two sh*ts who marries who/does what. I am force fed enough Brangelina, Britney, and Iraq war that I have no room to interfere in other people’s lives. I am trying to live my own, in a country who rigs its voting booths, and wages fraudulent wars.
There are seven year old girls being sold into marriage in other countries. I have an idea. Let’s take this $25 million and save those girls, and protect them instead of trying to prohibit two consensual adults who are in love from getting married. Or, we could help people who are living on less than a dollar a day. No! Why could we? They probably made the Yes on 8 shirts in some sweatshop anyway.
This is, at the very least, regressive. Those of you who do not support homosexuality, fine. But think of it this way: If we strip a whole group of people of their rights now, who is to say you are not next?
We could try to impose the same rules to people of a certain creed, or certain religious affiliation. If 8 passes, it will set a precedent. A dangerous precedent.
If you don’t like something, why bother over-involving yourself in their life? If I didn’t like the colour blue, I could make a conscience effort not to buy something blue, but if someone wore a blue shirt near me, I could do one of two things: Badger and oppress the hell out of them, or, I could choose to not pay attention to their blue shirt.
Grow the hell up, people. This proposition has created a ruckus and is causing people great sadness. In my opinion, stealing someone’s smile from them is far worse a sin than vowing to love and honour someone for the remainder of eternity.
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To HIllary @ October 24, 2008 at 11:37 PM
This is what you said:
"There was a demonstration at my street corner in MY neighbourhood today. It was peaceful until I got there. I am normally of the adage: I don't agree with what you have to say, but I will fight to my death your right to say it. But I changed my mind.
I ripped four of their a-hole signs out of the ground, and then got tackled by four god-loving people when I went for my fifth. Some young girl, took her sign, and waived it at me, egged me on, like "nanner, nanner, nanner". I could have punched her but karma will have its way with her. That, and she was fug. Karma already hit her.
I thought this was about protecting the sanctity of a straight marriage, not about showing what a bigot you are. Dude, I wish I would have back handed her and showed her, but hell, I got that fifth sign, so that'll do."
First off, if I was present you would be in jail. You went to a peaceful political gathering and decided that you were going to do violence. You took 4 signs which means you had to move people out of the way. That means you committed battery upon a person and you stole personal property. In addition you admitted to destroying said property. Those three alone are mere misdemeanors. Here is where the felony comes in: You engaged in political intimidation and suppression. Not only did you violate the state law on that, you violated their civil rights to hold a political assembly which is a Federal offense.
You not only assaulted these people and their property, you assaulted the election process as well by trying to remove their voice. You determined that your way is the only way and your way is 100% correct and thus cannot be challenged by another person on the face of this Earth. You committed violence, intimidation, and theft. This is what Communists have done in the past. This is what the Taliban has done as of recent times. You became them.
"The hillbillies and rednecks came out tonight." - I don't think so. I think we saw the Elitist and Communist in you come out tonight.
I straight schooled you in my reply, toolio. To those who aren't following the context, check this link out.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2008/10/apple-against-t.html
And my reply was:
To Jeffrey –
Congratulations; I am sure you spent a good hour coming up with that comment trying to outwit me. Please do note that most my posts have a sardonic tone, and are somewhat tongue in cheek.
I am glad, though, that you read my post, and responded. It does show the intelligence (or in your case, lack there of) of the proponents, and the people too complacent to stand up for equal rights (just as bad as the proponents).
I am an elitist. I want the best world I can have. I am on this planet, too. I recycle, don’t eat meat, don’t smoke, practice green living, etc. I want a world which allows for all people to be treated equally. People can have their own religious beliefs (though fairy-tale as they may be), so long as they don’t impose it on other people.
Do tell – which is a worse crime?
Trying to rescind someone’s equal right, blackmailing and extorting companies if they don’t donate against equality, manipulating and exploiting children, posting blatant lies, etc? (Very Taliban like behaviour)
Or someone standing up in their neighbourhood saying they won’t tolerate or accept the tyranny, bigotry, and abuse, and making that statement heard by tearing down a two-bit plastic bag sign? (Very sitting in a tree like behaviour)
Inaction is a weapon of mass destruction.
If we were in the 1800s, and a Black man kissed a White woman, you would hear shouts of “Yee-haw. We’s having a hangin’ tonight! Grab the whiskey, men.”
So, if I were there, and I stole and destroyed the noose, would you really think I was intimidating, and behaving like a communist? If so, then red I am and would be damn proud of it.
It takes vigilante-ism and radicals to make a difference. Yes on 8’ers are invading our cities, posting hateful signs, under the guise of freedom of speech and concern for their kids. I will not just sit down and let that happen. For those of you who do, you are non-deserving of an equal country and deserve whatever oppression comes your way.
Every ignorant person here is suggesting that this is the slippery slope for beastiality, and child molestation, and polygamy. Get off it, already.
Jewish people were made to wear the star of David on their arms and were denied service in some businesses and places of worship. That was the slippery slope of, oh, just a little thing called the Holocaust.
The yes on 8 signs are symbolically stating, “You grab the propane, I’ll get the jews.” And I, for one, will not just sit by and let that type of bigotry in my neighbourhood.
I know this post is very offensive, and it is meant to be. This is merely a parallel of what the proponents of yes on 8 are doing, and I am trying to ignite a reaction out of you. And if you think it is wrong, and offensive, for “GOD’s” sake, VOTE NO ON 8.
And, the signs were in the ground. I never touched one person. I just tore down their swastikas. They attacked me.
We love love in California. If you don’t, move away. Simple enough.
If anything you schooled yourself and godwinned yourself to boot:
To HIllary:
"Congratulations; I am sure you spent a good hour coming up with that comment trying to outwit me." - You outwitted yourself.
"I am glad, though, that you read my post, and responded. It does show the intelligence (or in your case, lack there of) of the proponents, and the people too complacent to stand up for equal rights (just as bad as the proponents)." - You support a group of deviants and sought to engage in suppression and intimidation. The intelligence demonstrated by you is lacking is attempting to equate this to a civil rights issue. A black man can not change his skin color. A female cannot change her sex outside of SRS. A homosexual however can change and can say "No". Some homosexuals were victims of molestations and thus brainwashed into believing it was correct only to find out they were sexually warped. Given enough time, homosexuality can be fixed and the issue rendered moot. There is no need to give 5 % minority the keys to defile an institution based on their failures with the opposite sex nor should we be party to assisting the committing of fraud for "benefits".
"I am an elitist. I want the best world I can have. I am on this planet, too. I recycle, don’t eat meat, don’t smoke, practice green living, etc. I want a world which allows for all people to be treated equally." Me thinks you do not understand what the word Elitist means. Let me help you with the definition:
elitist
noun
someone who believes in rule by an elite group
e·lit·ism or é·lit·ism (ĭ-lē'tĭz'əm, ā-lē'-) Pronunciation Key
n.
1. The belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, social status, or financial resources.
2.
1. The sense of entitlement enjoyed by such a group or class.
2. Control, rule, or domination by such a group or class.
As I said, you think you know everything and no one has the right to argue. Hence your assault and theft on peoples property.
"People can have their own religious beliefs (though fairy-tale as they may be), so long as they don’t impose it on other people." And yet you wish to force your beliefs that homosexuality is somehow equal to heterosexuality? A 5 % minority gets to rewrite the rules and definitions of family and marriage. There is a word for that: tyranny.
"Do tell – which is a worse crime?
Trying to rescind someone’s equal right, blackmailing and extorting companies if they don’t donate against equality, manipulating and exploiting children, posting blatant lies, etc? (Very Taliban like behaviour)"
-- Both sides manipulated children as evidenced by a 1st grade class being dragged a lesbian wedding. Homosexuals have been manipulating children from day 1. They are not children in the eyes of these people, more like pawns. Corporations have no business getting involved in social issues as it does not concern them. They have their own problems to deal with. Blatant lies? Both sides are guilty.
"Or someone standing up in their neighbourhood saying they won’t tolerate or accept the tyranny, bigotry, and abuse, and making that statement heard by tearing down a two-bit plastic bag sign? (Very sitting in a tree like behaviour)" - I see, threatening to suppress and intimidate the voting public to go against their beliefs and force them to accept a redefining and a re-engineering of our society is called "standing up?" It goes both ways. Homosexuals are bigots as well for not understanding that this world advances with the union of males and females. No two men or two women can ever consummate a union. Turkey basters don't count. There is a much deeper challenge when a man and woman come together, something no homosexual can ever experience much less understand. They are genetic failures and the price for that failure is that they are relegated to the sidelines and make that inevitable march to genetic suicide: death. There is no reward for them. The crime is allowing a perversion to run free, run rampant, run amok and reward it with something wonderful.
"Inaction is a weapon of mass destruction." - A bushism. Nice!
"If we were in the 1800s, and a Black man kissed a White woman, you would hear shouts of “Yee-haw. We’s having a hangin’ tonight! Grab the whiskey, men.”" - Strawman argument. Advocation of murder as opposed to preserving a national identity are two different entities.
"So, if I were there, and I stole and destroyed the noose, would you really think I was intimidating, and behaving like a communist? If so, then red I am and would be damn proud of it." - Non-Sequitor
"It takes vigilante-ism and radicals to make a difference." - Odd, Lenin said the same thing.
"Yes on 8’ers are invading our cities, posting hateful signs, under the guise of freedom of speech and concern for their kids." - Seems to me they were already citizens of that state and that city. If there is any invasion it is the degenerate minority that hold itself to being the same as us.
"I will not just sit down and let that happen. For those of you who do, you are non-deserving of an equal country and deserve whatever oppression comes your way." Oppression comes in many forms. You seek to oppress those who believe that marriage is between a man and a woman. It has been that way since time began (given a few hiccups). By loosing the standards, rewriting the rules and definitions that over 200 million Americans do not want rewritten, you have committed the crime of oppression. A good Republic compromises to make things work.
"Jewish people were made to wear the star of David on their arms and were denied service in some businesses and places of worship. That was the slippery slope of, oh, just a little thing called the Holocaust." - Right because we protect marriage and give gays a civil union will lead to us throwing them into an oven. Nice logical fallacy you got going. And you godwinned yourself.
"The yes on 8 signs are symbolically stating, “You grab the propane, I’ll get the jews.” And I, for one, will not just sit by and let that type of bigotry in my neighbourhood." - Protecting a unique institution from being defiled by social deviants does not equal a BBQ of Jews nor gays. You are foaming at the mouth now. Again, logical fallacy.
"I know this post is very offensive, and it is meant to be. This is merely a parallel of what the proponents of yes on 8 are doing, and I am trying to ignite a reaction out of you. And if you think it is wrong, and offensive, for “GOD’s” sake, VOTE NO ON 8." - I cannot. A man and woman is what makes this world the place that it is. My vote is Yes to preserve it.
"And, the signs were in the ground. I never touched one person. I just tore down their swastikas. They attacked me." - Protecting marriage and a swastika are two different things. Nice godwin though.
"We love degenerates and demand that heterosexuals bow down to us in California. If you don’t, move away. Simple enough." - Fixed that for you. I did move. Tired of being taxes to death and watching illegal aliens run unfettered through out LA. However I still maintain a residence there so I will be flying in to vote YES! on prop 8.
I was actually using the word "elite" in a looser form: –adjective 5. representing the most choice or select; best:
If I were to play god, and, let's be truthful, I can, I would create the most choice existance. I would have people love one another regardless of orientation, nationality, creed, age, gender, social class, health, religious affiliation. I would eliminate the monetary system, the oil drilling, hunger, cruelty, torture, would allow for universal health coverage, eliminate cloning of crops, the whole shabang.... That to me would be an elite way to live. The best.
What percentage minority is it that incest and products of incest fall into? As per the Bible, only Adam and Eve were the first two people and the only two people on earth. They got it on, pooped out some Adam juniors and Evettes. Evette bent over to pick up an apple one day, Daddy got a little excited, and Daddy then impregnated her.
Don't stop at Daddy, let Adam junior have a crack at her, too. And even her subsequent Evettes. That to me is degenerative behaviour, as would be canibalism, or the yearn to murder.
I am foaming at the mouth, yes. Here we have a chance to stop this back peddling from taking place. People need to move on this and make the right choice and preclude this from going any further. Oh, and honey, your vote has already been wiped out. So, trembling in my pants here, yawn.
And, here we have it. You, by your own admission, are a homosexual choosing to be hetero. After all, it is a choice, right?
Never mind the post I made earlier scientifically showing that over 450 species have proven homosexuality in them. Oh, Jeffrey, I don't even feel bad for you. I am growing bored with you, but I will address why the bible thinks being gay is so darned bad, but you will have to follow closely.
Have you ever seen those little balls of a miniature self-sustaining universe? Like at a Brookstone? A human made those. We do not yet know who made our little alient ant farm, because the religious right fights off science, and forces us behind in all our advancement.
I have posted this elsewhere, and I will post it here. I understand why people of the Judeo Christian faith are so fervent about this, and their religion. As well as everyone in every faith. You have been so brainwashed, and to have to step back, and see that, and admit it, and see what horrid acts of hate have occurred in the name of god, that you, yourself, have contributed to, why, that would just eat you alive.
You would rather bury your head up your crack further, than assume the shame you deserve.
The Bible is nothing more than a subliminal song lyric, my friend.
"Jesus Christ" is nothing more than the sun. Not the "son of god". But the SUN, which sets each night, and ressurects each morning. The 12 disciples are nothing more than the constellations surrounding, and the crown of thorns are the rays of the sun.
You have all been kaiser sosay'ed. Here, I urge you to watch both the movie, and its addendum.
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com
Paraphrasing as best I can:
Throughout generations, the sun was revered as a god, because cultures understood that the crops could only grow when the sun was around. The sun protected them from the dark of the night.
The first symbolism of a god was 3000 bc "Horus", the sun. He was defeated each night by "set" (the night). Some several milleniums later, it has translated into Jesus and Satan. It has passed down through other forms of "god".
All dead for three days, then resurrected, all born of a virgin mary, all perform miracles, yadda yadda.
The entire birth sequence is astrolological. The three kings of orion's belt align with sirius, the brightest star in the sky on Dec 24th. They then point to "god's SUN". The virgin Mary is actually the constellation Virgo.
Virgo tanslates into Virgin in Latin. Virgo is also referred to as the house of bread. The represenatation of virgo is a virgin holding wheat. That actually symbolizes August and September, the time of harvest. Bethlehem literally translates into the house of bread.
From the views of the Northern Hemisphere, as we move into winter, it looks like the sun is moving downward. It then percievably stops moving for three days starting December 22nd. It stays in the south most position of the constellation "the southern cross - crux".
Then, on December 25th, the sun moves one degree North, " the resurrection."
It has been suggested that some of the Bible has been written by Shakespeare. There is a line that begins "Shake" and ends in "Spear".
How in the world can we control a country? Oh, I know. Put the fear of god into them. Empound faith into them, so much so that they are too scared or too ashamed to even concider they are being lied to. Get them in line, have them do what you tell them to.
Homosexuality is not bad. During the crucades, people were made
to reproduce. Fornicate Under the Consent of the King. If a man does so with a man, they can not reproduce. Whoever alive at that time, adjusted the Holy Bible to say homosexuality is bad.
Food for thought: How do single cell organisms reproduce? And what about worms? They are seemingly asexual.
Jeffrey - I do appreciate the banter and debate, but I am not being fair to you, leaving you so unarmed against me. I do thank you for your public admission that even though you don't even live here in California, you are going to fly back home to oppose gay marriage.
Why would you want everyone to think you are such a prick?
Thanks to evolution, new species are being found daily, that probably account for a minimal percentage. Is it then, safe to assume, that you would not treat them fairly to the larger longer existing percentage?
If your traditional values hinge so delicately up other people employing their own traditional values, time to rethink your values.
If A leads to B and B leads to C, and we all want to avoid reaching C, we need to stop this at letter A. We must stop allowing any rights to be taken from anyone. Otherwise it will lead to a subculture, and that will breed only chaos and damnation.
This is a civil rights issue.
VOTE NO on 8.
Or expect a country run by people with Jeffrey's mentality.
You should also take the time to see the movie "Religulous" hosted by Bill Maher.
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